I have seen that scam format a thousand times before.
It's no more than a variation of a Room for Rent Scam, in which the scammer will tell you that he will need to send you a cheque for some reason. When the cheque arrives it will be for far more than you were expecting. He will tell you to cash the check and send him the "extra money" by Western Union . This check or money order will be fake, even if your bank cashes the check or tells you that it "cleared"!!!! The bank will find out in a few days or weeks that the check is fake, and will make you pay all of the money back, even the money you sent to the scammer. The bank might even have you arrested for cashing a bad check.
The African scammers are getting much smarter and learning how to manipulate their IP, this is a trick the Russian scammers have known for some time and the Africans are now catching on.
You cant trust IPs any more, if there are other indicators that it is not right, then go by those.
In this case the format and timing of the information they ask for is all too common in scams.
You will see this exact format in many scams, any email that includes this should be regarded as a scam.
Tuesday, January 26, 2010
Love scam
First of all, let me start by commenting on how kind and polite you are. I really like when women are polite and kind. In turn, I always try to be respectful to my partner and not take them for granted. It takes so little effort to show respect and gratitude and yet I find it will reward me many times over if I do, I'm very sorry if am too forward or blunt.
As you might have known I am on deployment to Afghanistan and hoping to be home soon. I have been in the military for about 16 years now my first military job as part of military intelligence was to track the enemies on the battlefield, enter the movements in a database and get this critical information to the command, wasn't funny at all lol ......
I grew up in a small town in IL and was the eldest in a family of 2. We lived in a small land area, but my late dad worked for the State of IL for income. My late mom was a full time mom. We didn't have a lot of money, but we had a garden and cows so we were never hungry.
Growing up, there were always lots of visitors in our house. i am 10 years older than my younger sister, she died some years back in an accident.We tried all we could but all efforts were in vain to rescue her life,so sad i must say.
There are lots of good memories, but also some hard and sad ones. For instance, loosing my families, It was very very hard. I can't say I've ever "accepted" that i could lost my younger sister. But I've all learned to go on with my life which seems equally tragic. I really wanted the world to come to a standstill when she died.
We were the "Eagle Eye" of the family and were very close. Her child have had to grow up knowing her mother as a good woman, now on different paths.
I have a son his name is Tony,he is back in States with his grandma, I lost Tony's mom when she felt sick and died of cancer of the breast,though i was on deployment to Germany then but I came home to take care of her but unfortunately she didn't respond to treatment and died all of the sudden,this constituted a major sorrow to my heart and our only son was asked to settle down with his mother's family until I got retired with a good wife for us to spend the rest of our life together.
I want someone serious , caring and honest,... what do you actually want for us to have the best long term relationship? probably marriage? Happy home ? Love takes many things: trust, hope, wishes, dreams, and everything you've got, even when you know it's not going be enough, i am a man who knows what it takes to make a woman happy and I trust my romantic instincts. If I am seriously drawn to someone, I don't care about traditional matching characteristics (like a certain age or financial status). I go for it!
I guess I want to have some fun, spend time getting to know someone really well before I can offer much more. I like friends to be genuine, sincere, free spirited, caring and loyal. I don't like people who are not tolerance of others and their lifestyles. I like to spend my free time going on holidays or walking along the beach (knees permitting!), I love eating out, I love food from all over the world, I love live music and gigs, cinema, theater, coffee shops, people watching, shopping, watching footies and bars, noisy nights out with friends,oh and I love Australian Red Wine or Vodka and coke
As you might have known I am on deployment to Afghanistan and hoping to be home soon. I have been in the military for about 16 years now my first military job as part of military intelligence was to track the enemies on the battlefield, enter the movements in a database and get this critical information to the command, wasn't funny at all lol ......
I grew up in a small town in IL and was the eldest in a family of 2. We lived in a small land area, but my late dad worked for the State of IL for income. My late mom was a full time mom. We didn't have a lot of money, but we had a garden and cows so we were never hungry.
Growing up, there were always lots of visitors in our house. i am 10 years older than my younger sister, she died some years back in an accident.We tried all we could but all efforts were in vain to rescue her life,so sad i must say.
There are lots of good memories, but also some hard and sad ones. For instance, loosing my families, It was very very hard. I can't say I've ever "accepted" that i could lost my younger sister. But I've all learned to go on with my life which seems equally tragic. I really wanted the world to come to a standstill when she died.
We were the "Eagle Eye" of the family and were very close. Her child have had to grow up knowing her mother as a good woman, now on different paths.
I have a son his name is Tony,he is back in States with his grandma, I lost Tony's mom when she felt sick and died of cancer of the breast,though i was on deployment to Germany then but I came home to take care of her but unfortunately she didn't respond to treatment and died all of the sudden,this constituted a major sorrow to my heart and our only son was asked to settle down with his mother's family until I got retired with a good wife for us to spend the rest of our life together.
I want someone serious , caring and honest,... what do you actually want for us to have the best long term relationship? probably marriage? Happy home ? Love takes many things: trust, hope, wishes, dreams, and everything you've got, even when you know it's not going be enough, i am a man who knows what it takes to make a woman happy and I trust my romantic instincts. If I am seriously drawn to someone, I don't care about traditional matching characteristics (like a certain age or financial status). I go for it!
I guess I want to have some fun, spend time getting to know someone really well before I can offer much more. I like friends to be genuine, sincere, free spirited, caring and loyal. I don't like people who are not tolerance of others and their lifestyles. I like to spend my free time going on holidays or walking along the beach (knees permitting!), I love eating out, I love food from all over the world, I love live music and gigs, cinema, theater, coffee shops, people watching, shopping, watching footies and bars, noisy nights out with friends,oh and I love Australian Red Wine or Vodka and coke
Accommodation Scam In London
I found this accomodation in London and the pictures looks great and its in the middle of London but the price sounds too cheap to be true, when I asked why they said that its because they have no agency fees, but the pictures looks like a 5 star hotel picture yet the price is the same as a hostel. They are also asking money transfer only but only a 200 pounds deposit and 5% of the total stay. When I tried to ring them, it just rang and went engaged, when asked they said the phone will be free soon I should ask my questions in emails.
It just sounds to good to be true and I don't want to send money and end up with nothing, especially from the other side of the world.
If you could post an e-mail from the scammer cjraver, together with headers and your personal info and mail addie deleted, we can handle getting those sites shut down, which always upsets scammers. If you can include the mail (with header) in which they sent the bank details we can handle that too.
Banks in the UK should perform what an American would term 'due diligence' on anyone seeking to open a non-personal account. It's unusual to see an non-personal account set up and used like this.
When anyone reports it to our contact - they should flag it up for special attention because of this. The bank should have a nice record of the checks they've undertaken to ensure it's not a bogus entity. As ex-bank I have no sympathy for those that don't comply with the legal requirements.
It just sounds to good to be true and I don't want to send money and end up with nothing, especially from the other side of the world.
If you could post an e-mail from the scammer cjraver, together with headers and your personal info and mail addie deleted, we can handle getting those sites shut down, which always upsets scammers. If you can include the mail (with header) in which they sent the bank details we can handle that too.
Banks in the UK should perform what an American would term 'due diligence' on anyone seeking to open a non-personal account. It's unusual to see an non-personal account set up and used like this.
When anyone reports it to our contact - they should flag it up for special attention because of this. The bank should have a nice record of the checks they've undertaken to ensure it's not a bogus entity. As ex-bank I have no sympathy for those that don't comply with the legal requirements.
I'm being scammed
This has all the usual warning signs of a romance scammer, I will dig a little deeper and see what I find but at this stage I would suggest that you ignore all attempts to be contacted by him.
Note, Right click and open links in a new window to remain on this page
There is some information here about the kind of information that will help us find proof and to keep you safe;
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3561
And here there is a lot of information that will show you how these scams work and to help you recognise the scammers in the future.
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3607
While we are looking into this, if you have any questions, please feel free to ask
Editing to add
After looking through this, I have not been able to find any proof however I have no doubt that its a scam, everything you have said fits a scammers profile perfectly, I cant yet be sure but this may be a UK based romance scammer which is a very rare species or the "personal assistant" may be another of his victims who was asked to receive the phone and pass it on.
A classic sign of a scammer is greed, take the phone, he didn't need you to send him just any phone, it had to be an iphone, if he had a genuine desperate need to have one, why that one, besides the fact they cost more.
If you prefer, you can forward emails and pictures to me but I may not be able to post them until later on tonight.
If you know how to find the header in the emails you received we may be able to confirm his location, if you dont know how to find a header, let us know which email provider (yahoo/gmail/hotmail/ect) you use and we can give you specific instructions.
Note, Right click and open links in a new window to remain on this page
There is some information here about the kind of information that will help us find proof and to keep you safe;
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3561
And here there is a lot of information that will show you how these scams work and to help you recognise the scammers in the future.
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3607
While we are looking into this, if you have any questions, please feel free to ask
Editing to add
After looking through this, I have not been able to find any proof however I have no doubt that its a scam, everything you have said fits a scammers profile perfectly, I cant yet be sure but this may be a UK based romance scammer which is a very rare species or the "personal assistant" may be another of his victims who was asked to receive the phone and pass it on.
A classic sign of a scammer is greed, take the phone, he didn't need you to send him just any phone, it had to be an iphone, if he had a genuine desperate need to have one, why that one, besides the fact they cost more.
If you prefer, you can forward emails and pictures to me but I may not be able to post them until later on tonight.
If you know how to find the header in the emails you received we may be able to confirm his location, if you dont know how to find a header, let us know which email provider (yahoo/gmail/hotmail/ect) you use and we can give you specific instructions.
After suffering scam
I did a bit of research on the address and found 150 Hills Road to be an internet cafe called "Club Cafe." But since I'm not a professional not sure if I did the search correctly.
In late November he told me that both he and his daughter went on a weekend trip to Glasgow. After their return they contacted the H1N1 virus and Jessica was taken to the hospital. Apparently she was born with congenital heart disease and the H1N1 virus made her very sick. She is at RACH (Royal Affirmity Children's Hospital). Sometime in December he told me Jessica needed a second surgery and asked me to send him $8,500. Thankfully I caught onto him after the iphone incident and told him I had no money and couldn't help him.
We continue to communicate. Jessica is still in the hospital, supposedly on a ventilator. Recently I asked him to send me the iphone back since he has never used it. He said he could never use it because it stated “no service.” I confirmed with AT&T that the phone was never used. He agreed to send me the phone, but ever since then, he became distant and just recently told me he's been very sick and hasn't been in the mood to chat. In my opinion he's using this as an excuse to disappear and not return the iphone.
Interestingly enough, I'm not really concerned about the iphone. I just want to know the truth. My gut tells me he is a scammer although he doesn't fit the “normal” scammer profile that I've read about on the internet. He is very cultured, professional and well-spoken/written. His pictures (5 in total) are very normal looking. He is definitely an educated individual, which makes it harder to detect.
In late November he told me that both he and his daughter went on a weekend trip to Glasgow. After their return they contacted the H1N1 virus and Jessica was taken to the hospital. Apparently she was born with congenital heart disease and the H1N1 virus made her very sick. She is at RACH (Royal Affirmity Children's Hospital). Sometime in December he told me Jessica needed a second surgery and asked me to send him $8,500. Thankfully I caught onto him after the iphone incident and told him I had no money and couldn't help him.
We continue to communicate. Jessica is still in the hospital, supposedly on a ventilator. Recently I asked him to send me the iphone back since he has never used it. He said he could never use it because it stated “no service.” I confirmed with AT&T that the phone was never used. He agreed to send me the phone, but ever since then, he became distant and just recently told me he's been very sick and hasn't been in the mood to chat. In my opinion he's using this as an excuse to disappear and not return the iphone.
Interestingly enough, I'm not really concerned about the iphone. I just want to know the truth. My gut tells me he is a scammer although he doesn't fit the “normal” scammer profile that I've read about on the internet. He is very cultured, professional and well-spoken/written. His pictures (5 in total) are very normal looking. He is definitely an educated individual, which makes it harder to detect.
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